General Discussion • Re: Goanna article in EN Wikipedia has been nominated for deletion

At this point, I don't even care if the Pale Moon article or the Goanna article are kept. I'm frankly more worried about Job losing his Wikipedia account, because I think he's actually active as a Wikipedian in other areas and I think him being accused of canvassing on behalf of this project could get him banned (since he's the OP). That is just not something I want happening to him because of the simple fact that most of the people with expertise about Goanna are here, and he knows it... which will likely be seen as proof that it's non-notable, and that people outside the Pale Moon community don't care about it, therefore deleted.

It kind of seems like a catch-22 that's hard to break out of unless you are already huge. You're not allowed to inform the project that's being discussed, so the decision will inevitably be made by people who know little or nothing about the subject with no input from those who do. Which means there won't be enough expertise to go around, and it conveniently gets dropped. I do understand that canvassing rule with big, notable things where the discussion could get flooded by a ton of people if it's mentioned off-site... but this kind of thing, it's maybe getting talked about by five or six people who have knowledge because it was posted here?

I do wish people from the forums hadn't voted keep or delete (if that happened, hard to tell?), that makes us look bad. Note that I myself did not vote to keep or delete but rather mentioned Goanna's use in K-Meleon as a point of information people should look into.