Leaving Mullvad, thoughts about iVPN?

fiqiluvo.epileto:

I’ll make sure to buy a yearly subscription this time

At $5/mo, Mullvad isn’t best value for money; as there are cheaper alternatives.

carbonated:

• Independently audited

It matters more just what is audited. And audits, if they do not read like marketing material, are about a system in restricted scope at a particular point in time. It isn’t a “living document”, for better or for worse.

carbonated:

• Anonymous payment (Mullvad, iVPN)

Doesn’t mean much if you’d connect to Mullvad / iVPN directly, as your IP (as assigned by your ISP) is visible to them (and hence you’re not really “anonymous”). This matters because…

carbonated:

• No log policy + anonymous account (all 3?)

EU-based VPN providers, which are subject to EU laws, are required to log in criminal cases.

crossroads:

I checked NymVPN, Obscura

Obscura whitelabels the second-hop to Mullvad.

mika:

I’ve already purchased Mullvad gift cards for the next few years of service so I suppose I’ll keep using it for now since they’ve already gotten my money. But I’ll reassess after that.

You might be in luck:

… if you no longer want to be a Mullvad customer for philosophical reasons, we think it’s important to honor that. In that case, reach out to support.

• kfreds.

spyfall:

Why not judge the product by its quality rather than personal political opinions of their CEOs

Agree, but: CEOs are public faces of respective corps, and usually stand to gain the most from whatever the company is marketing/selling.

CookieCrumbler:

If we boycotted every brand over a founder’s personal views or a donation, we’d basically have no tech left to use.

If you’re individualistic, you do what you can, whenever you can; including not doing anything. As a collective, you may choose differently.

cedarwind1:

The fact that Daniel is still involved in the company leads me to believe

I personally don’t like cancel culture (though, I understand it), but unless Daniel Berntsson publicly clarifies their (what seems like a private) political donation, we’re mostly jumping to conclusions.

carbonated:

I am planning to move to iVPN

I’ve had good experiences as a customer of Amnezia, Proton, and Windscribe.[1] I’ve only heard & observed positive things about iVPN (though, never used them).

1. So much so, we wanted to sell these providers to our app’s users… iVPN too, in some alternate universe, but they seemed uninterested. ↩︎