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  "publishedAt": "2026-06-29T15:15:24.000Z",
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  "textContent": "fiqiluvo.epileto:\n\n> I’ll make sure to buy a yearly subscription this time\n\nAt $5/mo, Mullvad isn’t best value for money; as there are cheaper alternatives.\n\ncarbonated:\n\n>   * Independently audited\n>\n\n\nIt matters more just what is audited. And audits, if they do not read like marketing material, are about a system in restricted scope at a particular point in time. It isn’t a “living document”, for better or for worse.\n\ncarbonated:\n\n>   * Anonymous payment (Mullvad, iVPN)\n>\n\n\nDoesn’t mean much if you’d connect to Mullvad / iVPN directly, as your IP (as assigned by your ISP) is visible to them (and hence you’re not really “anonymous”). This matters because…\n\ncarbonated:\n\n>   * No log policy + anonymous account (all 3?)\n>\n\n\nEU-based VPN providers, which are subject to EU laws, are required to log in criminal cases.\n\n* * *\n\ncrossroads:\n\n> I checked NymVPN, Obscura\n\nObscura whitelabels the second-hop to Mullvad.\n\nmika:\n\n> I’ve already purchased Mullvad gift cards for the next few years of service so I suppose I’ll keep using it for now since they’ve already gotten my money. But I’ll reassess after that.\n\nYou might be in luck:\n\n> … if you no longer want to be a Mullvad customer for philosophical reasons, we think it’s important to honor that. In that case, reach out to support.\n>\n> - kfreds.\n\nspyfall:\n\n> Why not judge the product by its quality rather than personal political opinions of their CEOs\n\nAgree, but: CEOs are public faces of respective corps, and usually stand to gain the most from whatever the company is marketing/selling.\n\nCookieCrumbler:\n\n> If we boycotted every brand over a founder’s personal views or a donation, we’d basically have no tech left to use.\n\nIf you’re individualistic, you do what you can, whenever you can; including not doing anything. As a collective, you may choose differently.\n\ncedarwind1:\n\n> The fact that Daniel is still involved in the company leads me to believe\n\nI personally don’t like cancel culture (though, I understand it), but unless Daniel Berntsson publicly clarifies their (what seems like a private) political donation, we’re mostly jumping to conclusions.\n\ncarbonated:\n\n> I am planning to move to iVPN\n\nI’ve had good experiences as a customer of Amnezia, Proton, and Windscribe.[1] I’ve only heard & observed positive things about iVPN (though, never used them).\n\n* * *\n\n  1. So much so, we wanted to sell these providers to our app’s users… iVPN too, in some alternate universe, but they seemed uninterested. ↩︎\n\n\n",
  "title": "Leaving Mullvad, thoughts about iVPN?"
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