Anthropic and Pentagon clash over AI military use

Episode 786: Neal and Toby chat about the software stock wipeout after a report from Citrini Research said AI could be detrimental to the economy. Then, Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei will meet with Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth to discuss the use of Claude for the US military. Also, what is Blue Owl? And why is it rattling the private credit industry? Meanwhile, Toby dives into the trend of the iPod making a comeback thanks to Gen Z.