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  "description": "Is Reform fascist, far-right or merely right wing? And do we really need to get into this?",
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  "publishedAt": "2026-05-15T11:49:17.000Z",
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  "textContent": "\nListen on Spotify\n  |  \nListen on Apple Podcasts\n\n---|---\n\nIs Reform fascist, far-right or merely right wing? And do we really need to get into this?\n\nOur guest on this episode, thinks we should: Daniel Trilling is a journalist, a long-time openDemocracy contributor, and the author of a new Book: If We Tolerate This: How the British Establishment Made the Far Right Respectable.\n\nDaniel has spent decades covering the wild west of right-wing politics in England— from the fascists to the conservatives.\n\nAnd his point, which we dig into over the length of this episode, is we need to correctly diagnose what Reform is, and what they are tapping into, before we decide what to do about it.\n\nI found this conversation particularly thought provoking for two reasons: Whenever we cover Reform on openDemocracy (and we go at them very hard), we often get readers writing in saying, “I support Reform but I’m not racist”; On the other hand, I worry — to borrow from the title of Daniel’s book, if we are making a dangerous group respectable.\n\nSo yes, we need to get into it, and Daniel is just the person to do this with.\n\n00:00 Introduction\n\n01:05 The Collapse of the UK's Two-Party System\n\n02:18 The First-Past-The-Post Lottery\n\n03:07 What is the \"British Establishment\"?\n\n04:19 The Media Elite & Private School Pipelines\n\n05:32 The \"Punitive State\": Working Class vs. The State\n\n07:37 The Nigel Farage Playbook\n\n10:48 The False Promise of \"Fixing the Country\"\n\n13:30 \"Anti-Nationals\" & The Right-Wing Identity Crisis\n\n16:32 Scottish Nationalism vs. Englishness\n\n18:23 The Identity Void of Post-Empire Britain\n\n21:40 How to Actually Defeat Reform UK & The Far-Right",
  "title": "How the UK Establishment Normalised Reform",
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