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    "]` under `nn.DataParallel`. That is not a theoretical concern; it is a public repro on PyTorch’s tracker. So your description — “it blows up when something downstream interrogates `self.model.device` inside `generate()`” — is mechanically very plausible. ([GitHub",
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  "textContent": "In this case, Transformers v5 has triggered the problem becoming apparent, but it might not be the cause itself.\n\n* * *\n\n## Bottom line\n\nI would treat this as a **`DataParallel` + `generate()` integration failure**, not as a Helsinki-NLP-specific regression and not as strong evidence that Python 3.12 or Ubuntu 24 broke Marian. The most likely immediate cause is:\n\n  1. `generate()` needs to know the model’s device.\n  2. In current Transformers, `ModuleUtilsMixin.device` is implemented as `return next(param.device for param in self.parameters())`.\n  3. PyTorch has public issue history showing that inside `nn.DataParallel` replica `forward` calls, `self.parameters()` can be empty.\n  4. If those two facts meet, `StopIteration` is the natural outcome. (GitHub)\n\n\n\n## Why your theory makes sense technically\n\nThe key detail is the current Transformers implementation of `.device`. It does not do anything fancy there; it simply asks the module for its parameters and takes the device of the first one. If no parameter is yielded, that line fails immediately with `StopIteration`. (GitHub)\n\nThat lines up unusually well with PyTorch’s `DataParallel` behavior. PyTorch issue **#49828** shows a minimal example where, inside `forward`, `list(self.parameters())` becomes `]` under `nn.DataParallel`. That is not a theoretical concern; it is a public repro on PyTorch’s tracker. So your description — “it blows up when something downstream interrogates `self.model.device` inside `generate()`” — is mechanically very plausible. ([GitHub)\n\nThere is also older Transformers issue history showing the same general failure shape: code paths using `next(self.parameters())` under `DataParallel` can raise `StopIteration`. An old XLNet issue shows exactly that pattern in forward execution under `DataParallel`. (GitHub)\n\n## Why this is probably not really “a Marian problem”\n\nEverything about the failure points to the wrapper architecture rather than the translation model family.\n\nPublic Hugging Face issue history shows several recurring classes of wrapper-related problems around generation:\n\n  * `generate()` on a `DataParallel`-wrapped model not being workable in practice. (GitHub)\n  * seq2seq examples breaking under `DataParallel`, with the issue disappearing when restricted to one visible GPU. (GitHub)\n  * pipeline and other high-level APIs also not reliably supporting a `DataParallel`-wrapped object. (GitHub)\n\n\n\nThat pattern is much broader than Marian. It says: **generation-oriented Hugging Face code and`DataParallel` have been a rough combination for years.** Your translation models are just another place where that rough edge is surfacing. (GitHub)\n\n## Why it may have worked for years and then failed after your upgrade\n\nThat is believable, and it still does not point to Python 3.12 as the root cause.\n\n`DataParallel` is one of those APIs where small changes in PyTorch internals, wrapper behavior, generation logic, or device-resolution timing can change whether a latent bug becomes visible. PyTorch still documents `DataParallel` as a replicated-per-forward, single-process, multi-thread abstraction, and still recommends `DistributedDataParallel` instead. Hugging Face has also continued evolving generation internals in v5 and around that period more generally, so a formerly lucky code path can become unlucky without the model itself changing. (PyTorch Documentation)\n\nSo my reading is:\n\n  * your **upgrade likely exposed** the problem,\n  * but the **design weakness was already there**.\n\n\n\n## Why `DataParallel` is the wrong fit for your exact workload\n\nYour workload is unusually clear:\n\n  * one machine,\n  * two GPUs,\n  * inference only,\n  * models that fit comfortably on a single GPU,\n  * goal is **throughput** on batched translation.\n\n\n\nThat is almost the textbook case for **one process per GPU with one ordinary model replica per process**.\n\nPyTorch’s own comparison explains why:\n\n  * `DataParallel` is **single-process, multi-threaded** ,\n  * `DistributedDataParallel` is **multi-process** ,\n  * `DataParallel` pays thread/GIL overhead,\n  * it also pays per-iteration replication overhead,\n  * and scattering/gathering adds more overhead,\n  * so DDP is usually faster even on a single machine. (PyTorch Documentation)\n\n\n\nThat point matters even more for `generate()`. Translation generation is not just “run one forward once.” It is an iterative control loop that keeps checking model state, generation configuration, and device placement. That is exactly the kind of path where wrapper abstractions tend to leak. (GitHub)\n\n## Should you switch to DDP?\n\nDirectionally, yes. Practically, the cleaner answer is:\n\n**Use the DDP architecture idea, but not necessarily the DDP wrapper.**\n\nFor pure inference, the important part is not gradient synchronization. The important part is:\n\n  * one process owns GPU 0,\n  * one process owns GPU 1,\n  * each process loads a normal unwrapped model,\n  * each process translates its shard of the batch,\n  * you merge outputs back in original order.\n\n\n\nThat gets you the benefit PyTorch wants you to have — multi-process, one replica per GPU — without forcing you into training-style distributed ceremony you do not need. PyTorch’s DDP tutorial and Hugging Face Accelerate’s distributed-inference guide both point in that direction. Accelerate specifically documents `split_between_processes()` for exactly this sort of multi-GPU inference sharding. (PyTorch Documentation)\n\n## Why I would not “hand-jam threads”\n\nI would hand-jam **processes** , not threads.\n\nThreads are the wrong escape hatch here because `DataParallel` is already the thread-based solution. PyTorch’s own comparison explicitly frames `DataParallel` as single-process, multi-threaded, with GIL contention and replication overhead, while the preferred alternative is multi-process. If you replace `DataParallel` with your own thread orchestration, you are staying on the same side of the architectural boundary that PyTorch is already telling you to leave. (PyTorch Documentation)\n\nSo if you want a robust “I control it myself” implementation, the right homemade version is:\n\n  * worker process on GPU 0,\n  * worker process on GPU 1,\n  * persistent model instance per worker,\n  * input queue,\n  * output queue,\n  * batch sharding by index.\n\n\n\nThat is much closer to the officially recommended direction than a thread pool.\n\n## A subtle but important caveat about DDP wrappers\n\nThere is one thing Dr. Google often leaves out: **wrapping the model in`DistributedDataParallel` and then calling `model.generate(...)` on the wrapper is not always smooth either**. Hugging Face has a public issue where a DDP-wrapped model raised `AttributeError: 'DistributedDataParallel' object has no attribute 'generate'`. (GitHub)\n\nThat is why my real recommendation is not “blindly wrap in DDP.” It is:\n\n  * adopt the **process-per-GPU design** ,\n  * keep each process’s model as a **plain model object** for inference,\n  * call normal `model.generate(...)` inside that process,\n  * use a launcher or helper library only for process orchestration.\n\n\n\nFor inference, that is usually simpler and more reliable than leaning on wrapper methods.\n\n## What I would do in your exact setup\n\nFor `Helsinki-NLP/opus-mt-ru-en` and `Helsinki-NLP/opus-mt-zh-en`, on a 2-GPU single machine, I would do this:\n\n  1. **Drop`nn.DataParallel` entirely** for inference.\n  2. Keep one ordinary model replica per GPU.\n  3. Split each incoming batch into two shards.\n  4. Run `generate()` independently in each process.\n  5. Reassemble outputs in input order.\n  6. Keep models loaded persistently so you do not repay load cost on every request. (PyTorch Documentation)\n\n\n\nIf you want the least boilerplate, use **Accelerate distributed inference**. If you want maximum explicit control and easy debugging, use plain Python multiprocessing or `torchrun` with one process per GPU. Either route is more appropriate than `DataParallel` for this workload. (Hugging Face)\n\n## What I would not do\n\nI would not:\n\n  * spend much more time trying to patch around `self.model.device` under `DataParallel`,\n  * assume downgrading Python will fix it,\n  * assume downgrading Transformers will fix it,\n  * rely on `model.module.generate(...)` as the long-term answer,\n  * replace `DataParallel` with a custom thread-based design. (PyTorch Documentation)\n\n\n\nThe reason is simple: all of those keep you too close to the wrapper behavior that is already failing.\n\n## My actual diagnosis, stated plainly\n\nIf I had to summarize your case in one sentence:\n\n> `generate()` is touching model device state; Transformers currently resolves `.device` by iterating parameters; `DataParallel` replicas can expose no parameters inside `forward`; so `StopIteration` under `DataParallel` is a believable architectural failure, not an especially convincing sign that Marian or Python 3.12 is broken. (GitHub)\n\n## Recommendation\n\nFor your case, I would make this call:\n\n  * keep the Marian/SentencePiece fix separate,\n  * stop using `nn.DataParallel` for translation inference,\n  * move to **one process per GPU** ,\n  * use **plain unwrapped models** in those processes,\n  * shard batches explicitly,\n  * use **Accelerate** or plain multiprocessing depending on how much control you want. (Hugging Face)\n\n\n\nThis also fits the broader current state of the Transformers stack and the separate Marian/backend diagnosis already established here.",
  "title": "Helsinki-NLP throws StopIteration within DataParallel"
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