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  "publishedAt": "2026-05-28T13:28:32.000Z",
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  "tags": [
    "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UAC_TurboTrain",
    "https://www.railpictures.ca/upload/a-li ... tied-up-at",
    "https://baike.baidu.com/en/item/DF8%20t ... tive/71738",
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  "textContent": ">\n> I've updated the file here. It now contains all vehicles, not just steam.\n> ... but the same note from before applies -> not all withdrawal dates are the \"earliest\" because such info isn't always definitely available. Withdrawals due to accidents and damage don't count.\n> also a lot of vehicles are new or still in service w/o withdrawals. thus my suggestion are that\n> - we always take a minimum of n years for availability regardless of anything. eg. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UAC_TurboTrain had a lifespan of 8 years, I don't think it's sensible to keep such a low value.\n>\n> The below are for MODEL LIFE\n> - we lower the never-expires to anything build after 1990\n> - if the expiry date would come to higher than idk 2025 the vehicle never expires. (this lines up with 1990+35)\n>\n> I didn't always mark the still-in-service items but did mark the ones that seem to have outlive their standard age (ie were intro'd a \"long time ago\" whatever that is and are still in service) with a 2030 w/d date - also I didnt' really bother looking up expiration dates for vehicles where the possible date, if any, would certainly fall into the 'never expires' period.\n\nAgreed with the rationale for picking up the dates. The one thing I'd do is for models that had to be rebuild (e.g. steam engines being reboilered after 30 years and serving 30 more years), then I'd take the date of the overhaul when sensible. In game, that would translate to having to buy a locomotive at the date where it was overhauled in real-life, which \"emulates\" having to perform extensive maintenance.\n\nRegarding the list I digged for a couple that were missing:\n\n  * CPR Trainmaster: they were short lived, most were scrapped in 1975 (from https://www.railpictures.ca/upload/a-li ... tied-up-at)\n  * China Railways DF8: the DF8 0001 was sent to a museum in 2010 (from https://baike.baidu.com/en/item/DF8%20t ... tive/71738)\n  * Budd SPV-2000: these were super unreliable; so if you take the FRA selling them off in 2000 that means a lifetime of 22 years, more than enough IMO\n\n\n\nStatistics: Posted by althonos — 28 May 2026 13:28\n\n* * *",
  "title": "Graphics Development • Re: [OTTD] 2cc TrainsInNML",
  "updatedAt": "2026-05-28T13:28:32.000Z"
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