Graphics Development • Re: [OTTD] 2cc TrainsInNML

I am also of course totally okay to exclude items if they are better suited for the NG set although I would prefer not totally excluding all the NG items from this one (which also brings another topic whereby although there are a large number of items in certain regions but they aren't balanced for roles or gauges)

I don't think you need to exclude anything -- ofc since I will focus on adding narrow-gauge stuff, but as long as we don't add the same thing at the same time (like the Costa-Rican AEG locomotive, oops), just feel free to add whatever

So, no, people should not be using more than one region, but there should be an aim to bring up the lesser regions to the level of more saturated ones.

I do play with all of them, with vehicle expiring, it really is okay (and in particular after splitting narrow and standard gauge)! But I get your point. In that case I would suggest duplicating export locomotives (e.g. have both the US and the export versions for the ones we have). It may also be possible to group the same engine with the group system but I don't know if that works well with some regions being enabled/disabled.

That's one thing. The other is that xMUs have standing counts included on purpose. Since there was no documentation on how the original set was designed, when I rechecked the counts I went through Wikipedia and spent a lot of time especially on the capacities. I am of course quite happy to correct the really non-sensible ones, like those flagged (SP1900 [although that particular vehicle has, per wiki capacity of "C, H, M, P Cars: 452, D Cars: 430, F Cars: 72 (excluding standing capacity) / 216 (with standing capacity)" and thus 250 is not an overkill] and the rest in the paragraph, also any others found as long as some proof of data is shown) - in a lot of cases there are comments (notes) in the excel file where relevant. E.g. for the Lint 41 it says "DE wiki: 52 seated, 85 standing per car"

There is a bug in the OpenTTD 16.0 dev version where if you sort by cargo capacity it puts the double of what it is So indeed your SP1900 is 250 per car and not 500 like I said. But the capacity of the Coradia Lint 41 is still silly: with 137 passengers per car it is higher capacity than... the Coradia Duplex! Which is its double-decker variant! Similarly the one-level NZR FP/FT having a higher capacity than the double-decker OSCAR trains (178 per car VS 120 per car) is also not very consistent.

I'll try fishing back for the discussion but I think the rationale for not using standing capacity is because the standing capacity is usually not taken into account for older trains, and tends to be more of a marketing thing for modern train constructors rather than correspond to a reality. You can very well stand in a mDDm 390 (I've done it some times between The Hague and Utrecht unfortunately) but the specs on Wikipedia and in-game are only for seats. For consistency it's better to use seats for everything because you won't be able to have standing information for older rolling stock.

Statistics: Posted by althonos — 21 May 2026 22:45