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  "textContent": "> I sometimes forget Windows 10 is an older operating system now. I imagine people being drawn to these circles don't see it that way.\n\nYeah. Though I admittedly still think being able to make sure it still works on Windows 11 is important. It is a good point that Windows 10 is an \"older operating system\" though most people here don't see it that way and usually think of anything newer 7 as \"new\" still. I at first wasn't happy with that part of Maestro's conclusion because of the XP connection, though I think he was fair and balanced and also gave weight to the importance of a more modern theme that could also be taken from that story, so I didn't want to complain too much. It's just annoying to constantly hear all these implications that stop just short of saying we made the wrong call dropping XP support (though he probably wasn't saying that at this point), all the praise heaped on ancient versions of GTK, just... these constant admonitions implying that we don't get to move beyond 2006 to 2012 and need to stay in our lane, reject anything modern, because our users are hardcore Luddites that will basically never forgive us if we do. And now I'm even seeing implications that they'll drop us if we so much as use AI to write one line of code and they find out about it. Like, yes, I'm not saying I want to integrate AI in the browser like Edge does (though I do wind up using and enjoying the Copilot integration in Edge more than I like to admit), but saying we can never use it, that people might get mad if an XUL extension that enables AI usage is listed? I'm just... feeling like the more I listen to our users as time goes on, the more I understand why Mozilla and other companies turned their back on them, decided they were too hard to please and there are plenty of users they'd be passing up to appease that crowd.\n\nI mean... it's not like the era we're allowed to target changes much as time goes on. There will always be people talking about Windows XP, dropping even 7 is probably out of the question (though I don't really mind that because 7 isn't really a pain to support like XP was), and I expect there would be arguments if we ever drop 32-bit support. Like... I can understand wanting 10 years of legacy support, maybe 15, but with our users, it really feels like however far away 2006 to 2012 get, that's still the era they want support for, no matter how ridiculous it gets.\n\nI do think when it comes to legacy support, we may not be able to listen to our users and give them what they want in this regard forever. There are times when we have to bite the bullet and take the reputational hit to move things forwards. The problem is that it's hard to do that if retro users who resent the future that's coming are almost the entire userbase.\n\nBut yeah, I like Moonchild's changes to the front page, he said we don't integrate AI, but didn't make any kind of commitment to not using it in code, and he went with \"lightweight\" rather than saying \"works well on old hardware/software,\" which I think is more sustainable and makes sense.\n\n* * *",
  "title": "General Discussion • Re: Pale Moon's PR Problem",
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