General Discussion • Re: Pale Moon's PR Problem

Once again, I see a lot of people missing the big picture. Let me briefly itemize:

a) Literally no one on earth (maybe a tiny handful of the most extremist fringe security people) uses openBSD as a home desktop. People literally have no idea anything openBSD has ever said about anything. b) Literally no one on earth (maybe a tiny handful of the most extremist fringe xp users) uses mypal. Same as above. c) People are fleeing Firefox as fast as they possibly can and have been for years, in fact they have been ever since the time of the last major UXP fork (@athenian200 gets this). The best thing Pale Moon could do for itself would be to stop advertising itself in any way as an independently developed modern fork that has ever had anything to do with Firefox. No one has the slightest interest. Call it the "latest, greatest, most private, secure thing ever", just like Helium has (whether true or not) and Brave before that (whether true or not), and you'll get downloads. It's human nature.

Pale Moon makes every "top 10 alternative browsers" list I can recall seeing for years, both in the tech press and on youtube. So it's not actually that there are never any mentions, it's just that readers, who are fleeing Firefox as fast as they can, are reading that Pale Moon has something to do with Firefox.

That's all. Also, put lots of bright shiny colors on your home page, and make your Linux Downloads page look like a simplified version of Veit Kannegeiser's Downloads page - a command for getting his key, a command for adding his repo to your source list, and instructions on running 'apt update' and 'apt install palemoon'. This is what all the big browsers do, since almost all the users are on some form of Debian or Ubuntu. People don't want to come to a Downloads page and say to themselves, "oh man, I have to figure out a freaking tarball?" Just being honest.

I don't know much about how Windows users get software, maybe you are already doing that right and they just need to stop hearing anything related to Firefox.

This is just marketing 101 kind of stuff. I may be wrong on some of my assumptions, but probably not. Who among us has ever known a long-term, commmitted openBSD home desktop user? Who among us has ever known a mypal user who wasn't an XP extremist (or we ourselves were trying it to get internet access on an XP box)? The long-term plummeting, cratering, death spiral Firefox user base numbers speak for themselves, and even THEY claim "latest, greatest, most private, secure thing ever" to try to prop themselves up, but hardly anyone is buying it any longer.