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  "publishedAt": "2026-05-23T16:45:48.000Z",
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  "textContent": "There is another angle to this that's a lot darker that no one likes to think about... have you seen Firefox marketshare over the past few years? They're now below 3%. And it still appears to be headed down.\n\nThe web in the future seems like it's only going to be designed for Chromium and maybe Safari, not Mozilla or its forks. Which means I worry at some point we really will be \"on our own\" to the point even spoofing a Firefox UA might not help... might have to spoof an older WebKit or something instead when that day comes.\n\nMy thinking on this is... if Firefox with all the resources they have just keeps losing to Chromium forks, it seems like it would be pretty hard for us to do better even if we have much better intentions. The worst part is? I watched this pattern before as an IE user. I watched IE lose marketshare year after year, resenting Chrome and Firefox and not liking how Google was funding Firefox development, until Microsoft eventually tried to create Edge to stop the bleeding. I went through the whole thing of trying to get webmasters to care about Edge back when it had its own engine, and watching Google insert nag screens to download Chrome on YouTube and every other site they controlled, long before I discovered the Pale Moon community. Eventually it got critical to the point Microsoft had to turn Edge into a Chromium browser and rip out Google services to replace with their own, and that's about the time I found the Pale Moon community.\n\nIt really looks like the browser engine monoculture may be here to stay. Microsoft couldn't beat Chrome, Firefox is losing despite being funded by Google and them using kid gloves to avoid killing that project, so... I hate to say it, maybe Chromium is just too entrenched in the ecosystem now for people to ever have a choice of browser again. Maybe everyone who ever wanted something different has already lost and we're all just too stubborn to give up anyway.\n\n* * *",
  "title": "General Discussion • Re: Pale Moon's PR Problem",
  "updatedAt": "2026-05-23T16:45:48.000Z"
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