General Discussion • Re: Pale Moon's PR Problem

If Helium can become basically the end-game of web browsing for normie OSS users, out of nowhere, over literally nothing but a sane dev team that listens to its community, then we can turn things around in some way or other.

Don't want to be unfair since I haven't tried it, but what is so different here than other Chromium browsers? When did built-in ad-blocking become a revolutionary feature and have we become THAT lazy to even bother looking for an extension?

I cannot hide a strong disbelief to flattering stuff like "made for people, with love". As opposed to what, "made for aliens, with disgust"? In any case, I wish that browser well but how can it compete with, say, Brave for example? What's the difference?

OMG, exactly.

As I said earlier, Helium's only true appeal is that in an ecosystem of browsers that are inconsistent in their design and intentions, mostly due to being for-profit (e.g. Vivaldi having closed-source components, Brave's marketing, Firefox's illusions of grandeur), it is actually sane.

• It is totally community-powered.
• It comes with no extra features aside from those relevant to the browser. It has fingerprinting similar to Brave (in general, childs play; but for a Chromium-based browser, it's impressive).
• It comes prepackaged with uBlock Origin, the community's choice for adblocking. Not quite as good as with Firefox, but close enough; uBlock Origin users will be attracted to Helium because of this.
• It will guaranteed support MV2 until it can no longer -- literally taking up a sisyphean task, while Brave has less incentive and definitely will cuck sooner. They will make excuses that their own adblocking system is enough for its users -- which, btw, probably is heavier on system resources than just using uBO.
• It is actually giving the people what they want! and this is what they mainly do with their browser. So basically, they are making software primarily for the benefit of the people who use it. WOW! What a mind-blowing concept!

And this is all there is to it, ladies and gentlemen. They do not have any revolutionary features. They just took all the best parts from all different places and put them together. DDG's !bangs; vertical tabs; MV2; a friendly UI; no built-in telemetry or tracking from Google; no in-browser ads; no extra services offered within the browser that are irrelevant and that no one asked for. So they are just literally doing what a browser that actually cares SHOULD do.

And this has basically led to the christening and hype you see today. People talk about Helium's awesome features; none of them are new. People talk about Helium's speed; that's just Chromium and, IDK, maybe some cool optimizations they enabled or put in, that probably aren't new (Thorium probably did them first). People talk about Helium not having no bloat; that is just their perception, because they are used to excessive feature creep from other browsers e.g. Brave with their crypto and stuff. All trivial compared to what lies underneath.

And then there's Pale Moon. You can count the advantages listed here, Pale Moon rules them all, except for speed, and I guess maybe the community. Maybe we can leverage this?