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  "textContent": "> Oh no, not mad at all, it was a good and thoughtful post with very valid reservations, ones that even some of us on the team have had. We knew going into it that folks would be leery about it and with good reason. But i'd like to assure you we're not just old curmudgeons pining away for a long lost era, best analogy I can give being an old gearhead is we are dragging a vintage muscle car out of the barn it was parked in, and instead of doing a basic re-build we are doing a resto-mod, adding better and more modern engine parts, improved suspension and handling so it's not just a straight-line ride. It's actually been very exciting, there's a lot to do but watching it come to life is a great experience, Daemonratte has really outdone himself on this one, his work ethic and enthusiasm are very inspiring and our crew is growing as a result.\n\nYou know, Xlibre has brilliantly breathed life into Xorg, I know a ton of people that are using it now even though Xorg was seemingly left for dead less than a year ago. And these people who are using it are not stuck-in-the-past shaking-fist-at-the-clouds angry old men. They are just modern users on modern distros who are realistically saying that some of their systems work better with Wayland and some work better with Xlibre, and why not have both options? If Xorg was never going to get any updates then it was a no-brainer to try to move on from it, but Xlibre is quite alive and flourishing and makes total sense to use on all kinds of systems.\n\nMaybe, hopefully, the same kind of revival can happen with gtk2-ng. I didn't look at it that way before, but it makes sense.\n\nAlso, welcome to the Pale Moon forum @greenjeans!!! What took you so long? You should have been here all along, this is a very vibrant and exciting place to be.\n\n* * *",
  "title": "Other/future projects • Re: GTK2 revival",
  "updatedAt": "2026-05-16T18:14:54.000Z"
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