Browser Development • Re: Linux Pale Moon with Qt toolkit

Oh, wow. That's... less than I thought. I was thinking that it was a lot of trouble for something like 10-20% of the userbase... but it was really closer to 5%.

Granted, I do see a certain amount of value in being attractive to Linux users because they are hacker-types and often know their way around a compiler, which means they might be able to contribute code. But this definitely makes the situation seem absurd. 4% of the users require significantly more work on non-web related issues connected to platform code...

If that's the case, our position is significantly stronger on this issue than I thought. If a native Linux application doesn't support the latest toolkit, then they have a problem. But if a cross-platform application with 95% Windows and Mac users doesn't support Linux well, then Linux has a problem. I hate to put it that way, but now I understand why you weren't more worried about this issue...

I don't think anyone is worried about this (non)-issue. The reason I chimed in was because I have time on my hands. I don't watch TV, do social media etc. Linux is my hobby. It's a hobby, not something I rely on for anything. I'm sure this is the case for many Linux users. You can use an iPad for everything these days. So the only real aspect is privacy and for that Linux is pretty good. Pale Moon is also good, but so is LibreWolf.

Just saying that chatting about this was for fun, not expecting anything to come out of it. Linux is always like that. If someone wants something they create it and then they often share it. If people like it then they use it. I would be happy to use Pale Moon with gtk4 and libadwaita just for fun. You can look up teejeetech.com. He ships everything "without dependencies" with gtk4 built-in.

There are no problems on Linux (kernel), only possibilities. This is the right mindset. There is also a possibility to not support Linux at all and let the community handle it (if they want to). That is also fine. We all do what we do because we want to, so we should be happy. Linux is about FOSS (privacy) and joy. No one really has to worry about anything because there always pop up solutions sooner or later. I have used Linux for 18 years and anytime there was a problem there was also a solution. With FOSS real problems don't really exist.

People "worry" about Wayland but ultimately it will be a small thing compared to systemd, at least for the foreseeable future.