Browser Support • Re: Cloudflare Verification Loop issues

really night wing ? With days of delays to fix that so called issue out of the blue when many safe list browsers are still active ? & while chrome's swimming in the bluest & purest sea with all those changes never affecting chrome or waterfox ? & i believe the authors of cloudflare are trying to push people to use more popular browsers from time to time, & that's why chrome is in their safelist .. .

On November 18th, 2025 and also on February 20th of 2026, CF had some major internal problems which affected about 20% of the internet. And you can look that up if you want to fact check me.

Back on point.

When those two outages happened, I image some of those affected websites on those two dates have a monetary contract with CF to keep bot traffic at bay. Even Chrome did not work either. I'm guessing and the key word is "guessing"; those websites where users using Chrome could not get through, if I owned one of those websites, I would have told CF to get it's act together or at contract renewal time, the contract would not be renewed.

If the hypothetical above came to pass; I imagine if I was running or controlling CF and did not want to loose any "lucrative money contracts", I would play it "safe" and only protect those money sites from bots for users using Chrome, Edge, Safari and Firefox which are those browsers which internet users use the most market share wise.

In other words, big mainstream browsers which are not considered "niche" browsers which I "guess", CF classifies Pale Moon as a niche browser. Therefore Pale Moon is always going to be considered a "scullery maid" like Cinderella was when it comes to dealing with CF.

In other topics on this site where CF is being discussed extension wise or add on wise, they have unblocked CF where Pale Moon works. But that is a temporary work around and eventually, CF will change things again internally and that work around will not work anymore. It is like the game, "whack-a-mole".

I do not use the "work arounds" for Pale Moon because I know these are just temporary fixes when dealing with CF. I take the easy way out and just use my backup Waterfox browser to get to the sites I "need" to get through to when CF blocks Pale Moon. If Waterfox does not work, then I go to my third browser preference wise, Firefox.

And if you want to give me a hypothetical question and ask me if none of my three browsers (Pale Moon, Watefox, Firefox) no longer work, then I would have to "bite the bullet" and no longer visits those sites CF is protecting. I'd hunt for alternative sites because I am never going to use Chrome or Edge. I left out Safari because I do not own an Apple computer.