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"textContent": "I am never signed in to YouTube even though I should be able to since I have a Gmail account. But I view YouTube and view my videos in the highest definition mode I can get if the video offers it using my two desktop tower computers. Both tower computers have plenty of \"oomph\" to handle whatever YouTube is now offering.\n\nI have Comcast as my ISP so I have plenty of download speed and the Intel i7 processors in both towers have plenty of processor speed (3.40 & 3.60) No lagging, no buffering, no ads (since I use uBlock Origin 1.16.6.1 with the permissions for YT in the Permissions Manager), no keyboard problems, lots of memory and both desktops are cool temperature wise.\n\nThe backup tower desktop has a decent graphics card, but my main desktop tower (Montech case), has a very good graphics card. Lots of people on here have seen me post my specifications on the Montech case. I will post it again, but then I will get on my backup tower and post it's specifications. I will try and edit this post and hope I can. If I cannot, I will make another post just showing the specs on my backup tower desktop.\n\n\nCODE:\n\n\n System: Kernel: 6.12.74+deb13+1-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 14.2.0 clocksource: tsc avail: hpet,acpi_pm parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.12.74+deb13+1-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash Desktop: Xfce v: 4.20.1 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.48 wm: xfwm4 v: 4.20.0 with: xfce4-panel tools: avail: xfce4-screensaver vt: 7 dm: LightDM v: 1.32.0 Distro: MX-25.1_x64 Infinity Nov 9 2025 base: Debian GNU/Linux 13 (trixie)Machine: Type: Desktop Mobo: Micro-Star model: MAG B660M MORTAR WIFI DDR4 (MS-7D42) v: 1.0 serial: <superuser required> uuid: <superuser required> UEFI: American Megatrends LLC. v: 1.M0 date: 04/17/2025CPU: Info: model: 12th Gen Intel Core i7-12700K bits: 64 type: MST AMCP arch: Alder Lake gen: core 12 level: v3 note: check built: 2021+ process: Intel 7 (10nm ESF) family: 6 model-id: 0x97 (151) stepping: 2 microcode: 0x3D Topology: cpus: 1x dies: 1 clusters: 9 cores: 12 threads: 20 mt: 8 tpc: 2 st: 4 smt: enabled cache: L1: 1024 KiB desc: d-4x32 KiB, 8x48 KiB; i-8x32 KiB, 4x64 KiB L2: 12 MiB desc: 8x1.2 MiB, 1x2 MiB L3: 25 MiB desc: 1x25 MiB Speed (MHz): avg: 800 min/max: 800/4900:5000:3800 scaling: driver: intel_pstate governor: powersave cores: 1: 800 2: 800 3: 800 4: 800 5: 800 6: 800 7: 800 8: 800 9: 800 10: 800 11: 800 12: 800 13: 800 14: 800 15: 800 16: 800 17: 800 18: 800 19: 800 20: 800 bogomips: 144383 Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx Vulnerabilities: Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected Type: indirect_target_selection status: Not affected Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected Type: l1tf status: Not affected Type: mds status: Not affected Type: meltdown status: Not affected Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected Type: reg_file_data_sampling mitigation: Clear Register File Type: retbleed status: Not affected Type: spec_rstack_overflow status: Not affected Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Enhanced / Automatic IBRS; IBPB: conditional; PBRSB-eIBRS: SW sequence; BHI: BHI_DIS_S Type: srbds status: Not affected Type: tsa status: Not affected Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected Type: vmscape mitigation: IBPB before exit to userspaceGraphics: Device-1: Intel AlderLake-S GT1 vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: i915 v: kernel alternate: xe arch: Xe process: Intel 10nm built: 2020-21 ports: active: none empty: DP-1, DP-2, HDMI-A-1, HDMI-A-2, HDMI-A-3, HDMI-A-4 bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:4680 class-ID: 0380 Device-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Ellesmere [Radeon RX 470/480/570/570X/580/580X/590] vendor: XFX Pine driver: amdgpu v: kernel arch: GCN-4 code: Arctic Islands process: GF 14nm built: 2016-20 pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 ports: active: HDMI-A-5 empty: DP-3, DP-4, DP-5, DVI-D-1 bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 1002:67df class-ID: 0300 temp: 41.0 C Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 21.1.16 compositor: xfwm4 v: 4.20.0 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu,modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1 Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 509x286mm (20.04x11.26\") s-diag: 584mm (22.99\") Monitor-1: HDMI-A-5 mapped: HDMI-A-4 model: ViewSonic VX3276-FHD serial: <filter> built: 2022 res: mode: 1920x1080 hz: 60 scale: 100% (1) dpi: 70 gamma: 1.2 size: 698x393mm (27.48x15.47\") diag: 801mm (31.5\") ratio: 16:9 modes: max: 1920x1080 min: 720x400 API: EGL v: 1.5 hw: drv: intel iris drv: amd radeonsi platforms: device: 0 drv: radeonsi device: 1 drv: iris device: 2 drv: swrast gbm: drv: kms_swrast surfaceless: drv: radeonsi x11: drv: radeonsi inactive: wayland API: OpenGL v: 4.6 compat-v: 4.5 vendor: amd mesa v: 25.0.7-2 glx-v: 1.4 direct-render: yes renderer: AMD Radeon RX 580 Series (radeonsi polaris10 ACO DRM 3.61 6.12.74+deb13+1-amd64) device-ID: 1002:67df memory: 7.81 GiB unified: no API: Vulkan v: 1.4.309 layers: 3 device: 0 type: discrete-gpu name: AMD Radeon RX 580 Series (RADV POLARIS10) driver: mesa radv v: 25.0.7-2 device-ID: 1002:67df surfaces: xcb,xlib device: 1 type: integrated-gpu name: Intel UHD Graphics 770 (ADL-S GT1) driver: mesa intel v: 25.0.7-2 device-ID: 8086:4680 surfaces: xcb,xlib device: 2 type: cpu name: llvmpipe (LLVM 19.1.7 256 bits) driver: mesa llvmpipe v: 25.0.7-2 (LLVM 19.1.7) device-ID: 10005:0000 surfaces: xcb,xlib Info: Tools: api: eglinfo, glxinfo, vulkaninfo de: xfce4-display-settings x11: xdriinfo, xdpyinfo, xprop, xrandrAudio: Device-1: Intel Alder Lake-S HD Audio vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel alternate: snd_soc_avs,snd_sof_pci_intel_tgl bus-ID: 00:1f.3 chip-ID: 8086:7ad0 class-ID: 0403 Device-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Ellesmere HDMI Audio [Radeon RX 470/480 / 570/580/590] vendor: XFX Pine driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 01:00.1 chip-ID: 1002:aaf0 class-ID: 0403 API: ALSA v: k6.12.74+deb13+1-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsactl,alsamixer,amixer Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.4.5 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active 2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctlNetwork: Device-1: Intel Alder Lake-S PCH CNVi WiFi driver: iwlwifi v: kernel modules: wl bus-ID: 00:14.3 chip-ID: 8086:7af0 class-ID: 0280 IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter> Device-2: Realtek RTL8125 2.5GbE vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: r8169 v: kernel pcie: gen: 2 speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: 4000 bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8125 class-ID: 0200 IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> Info: services: NetworkManager, nfsd, systemd-networkd, wpa_supplicantBluetooth: Device-1: Intel AX201 Bluetooth driver: btusb v: 0.8 type: USB rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 1.1 bus-ID: 1-14:7 chip-ID: 8087:0026 class-ID: e001 Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 5.2 lmp-v: 11 sub-v: 37c8 hci-v: 11 rev: 37c8 class-ID: 6c0104 Info: acl-mtu: 1021:4 sco-mtu: 96:6 link-policy: rswitch sniff link-mode: peripheral accept service-classes: rendering, capturing, audio, telephonyDrives: Local Storage: total: 912.89 GiB used: 21.36 GiB (2.3%) SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required. ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: SanDisk model: SSD PLUS 480GB size: 447.13 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s tech: SSD serial: <filter> fw-rev: 04RL scheme: GPT ID-2: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 870 EVO 500GB size: 465.76 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s tech: SSD serial: <filter> fw-rev: 2B6Q scheme: GPTPartition: ID-1: / raw-size: 446.88 GiB size: 438.79 GiB (98.19%) used: 21.36 GiB (4.9%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2 ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 256 MiB size: 252 MiB (98.46%) used: 8.7 MiB (3.5%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1Swap: Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default) zswap: no ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 8 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 file: /swap/swapSensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 32.8 C mobo: N/A gpu: amdgpu temp: 41.0 C Fan Speeds (rpm): N/A gpu: amdgpu fan: 1138Repos: Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 2463 libs: 1310 tools: apt, apt-get, aptitude, nala, synaptic pm: rpm pkgs: 0 pm: flatpak pkgs: 0 No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.sources 1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ trixie main contrib non-free non-free-firmware 2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ trixie-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware 3: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ trixie-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.sources 1: deb https://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ trixie main non-freeInfo: Memory: total: 64 GiB available: 62.53 GiB used: 2.03 GiB (3.2%) Processes: 420 Power: uptime: 2h 46m states: freeze,mem,disk suspend: deep avail: s2idle wakeups: 1 hibernate: platform avail: shutdown, reboot, suspend, test_resume image: 24.96 GiB services: upowerd,xfce4-power-manager Init: systemd v: 257 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 14.2.0 Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.37-release inxi: 3.3.38Boot Mode: UEFI\n\nBelow are my specs for my backup desktop tower computer.\n\n\nCODE:\n\n\n System: Kernel: 6.12.74+deb13+1-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 14.2.0 clocksource: tsc avail: hpet,acpi_pm parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.12.74+deb13+1-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash Desktop: Xfce v: 4.20.1 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.48 wm: xfwm4 v: 4.20.0 with: xfce4-panel tools: avail: xfce4-screensaver vt: 7 dm: LightDM v: 1.32.0 Distro: MX-25.1_x64 Infinity Nov 9 2025 base: Debian GNU/Linux 13 (trixie)Machine: Type: Desktop System: Hewlett-Packard product: N/A v: N/A serial: <superuser required> Chassis: type: 3 serial: <superuser required> Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 2AF3 v: 1.0 serial: <superuser required> uuid: <superuser required> UEFI: AMI v: 80.07 date: 06/05/2013CPU: Info: model: Intel Core i7-4770 bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Haswell gen: core 4 level: v3 note: check built: 2013-15 process: Intel 22nm family: 6 model-id: 0x3C (60) stepping: 3 microcode: 0x28 Topology: cpus: 1x dies: 1 clusters: 4 cores: 4 threads: 8 tpc: 2 smt: enabled cache: L1: 256 KiB desc: d-4x32 KiB; i-4x32 KiB L2: 1024 KiB desc: 4x256 KiB L3: 8 MiB desc: 1x8 MiB Speed (MHz): avg: 977 min/max: 800/3900 scaling: driver: intel_cpufreq governor: schedutil cores: 1: 977 2: 977 3: 977 4: 977 5: 977 6: 977 7: 977 8: 977 bogomips: 54271 Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 Vulnerabilities: Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected Type: indirect_target_selection status: Not affected Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX unsupported Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI Type: mmio_stale_data status: Unknown: No mitigations Type: reg_file_data_sampling status: Not affected Type: retbleed status: Not affected Type: spec_rstack_overflow status: Not affected Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines; IBPB: conditional; IBRS_FW; STIBP: conditional; RSB filling; PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected; BHI: Not affected Type: srbds mitigation: Microcode Type: tsa status: Not affected Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected Type: vmscape mitigation: IBPB before exit to userspaceGraphics: Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Turks [Radeon HD 7600 Series] vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: radeon v: kernel alternate: amdgpu arch: TeraScale-2 code: Evergreen process: TSMC 32-40nm built: 2009-15 pcie: gen: 2 speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 16 link-max: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s ports: active: HDMI-A-1 empty: DP-1,DVI-I-1 bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 1002:675b class-ID: 0300 temp: 34.0 C Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 21.1.16 compositor: xfwm4 v: 4.20.0 driver: X: loaded: radeon unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: r600 gpu: radeon display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1 Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 509x286mm (20.04x11.26\") s-diag: 584mm (22.99\") Monitor-1: HDMI-A-1 mapped: HDMI-0 model: ViewSonic VX3276-FHD serial: <filter> built: 2022 res: mode: 1920x1080 hz: 60 scale: 100% (1) dpi: 70 gamma: 1.2 size: 698x393mm (27.48x15.47\") diag: 801mm (31.5\") ratio: 16:9 modes: max: 1920x1080 min: 720x400 API: EGL v: 1.5 hw: drv: amd r600 platforms: device: 0 drv: r600 device: 1 drv: swrast gbm: drv: kms_swrast surfaceless: drv: r600 x11: drv: r600 inactive: wayland API: OpenGL v: 4.5 vendor: mesa v: 25.0.7-2 glx-v: 1.4 direct-render: yes renderer: AMD TURKS (DRM 2.50.0 / 6.12.74+deb13+1-amd64 LLVM 19.1.7) device-ID: 1002:675b memory: 1000 MiB unified: no API: Vulkan v: 1.4.309 layers: 3 device: 0 type: cpu name: llvmpipe (LLVM 19.1.7 256 bits) driver: mesa llvmpipe v: 25.0.7-2 (LLVM 19.1.7) device-ID: 10005:0000 surfaces: xcb,xlib Info: Tools: api: eglinfo, glxinfo, vulkaninfo de: xfce4-display-settings x11: xdriinfo, xdpyinfo, xprop, xrandrAudio: Device-1: Intel 8 Series/C220 Series High Definition Audio vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:8c20 class-ID: 0403 Device-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Turks HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 6500/6600 / 6700M Series] vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: gen: 2 speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 16 link-max: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s bus-ID: 01:00.1 chip-ID: 1002:aa90 class-ID: 0403 API: ALSA v: k6.12.74+deb13+1-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsactl,alsamixer,amixer Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.4.5 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active 2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctlNetwork: Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8211/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: r8169 v: kernel pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: d000 bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8168 class-ID: 0200 IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> Info: services: NetworkManager, nfsd, systemd-networkd, wpa_supplicantDrives: Local Storage: total: 931.52 GiB used: 18.47 GiB (2.0%) SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required. ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 870 EVO 500GB size: 465.76 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s tech: SSD serial: <filter> fw-rev: 2B6Q scheme: MBR ID-2: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 vendor: PNY model: CS900 500GB SSD size: 465.76 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s tech: SSD serial: <filter> fw-rev: 0615 scheme: GPTPartition: ID-1: / raw-size: 465.51 GiB size: 457.13 GiB (98.20%) used: 18.46 GiB (4.0%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2 ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 256 MiB size: 252 MiB (98.46%) used: 8.7 MiB (3.5%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1Swap: Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default) zswap: no ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 6 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 file: /swap/swapSensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 31.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: radeon temp: 35.0 C Fan Speeds (rpm): N/ARepos: Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 2460 libs: 1309 tools: apt, apt-get, aptitude, nala, synaptic pm: rpm pkgs: 0 pm: flatpak pkgs: 0 No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.sources 1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ trixie main contrib non-free non-free-firmware 2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ trixie-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware 3: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ trixie-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.sources 1: deb https://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ trixie main non-freeInfo: Memory: total: 32 GiB available: 31.3 GiB used: 1.37 GiB (4.4%) Processes: 297 Power: uptime: 1m states: freeze,mem,disk suspend: deep avail: s2idle wakeups: 0 hibernate: platform avail: shutdown, reboot, suspend, test_resume image: 12.47 GiB services: upowerd,xfce4-power-manager Init: systemd v: 257 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 14.2.0 Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.37-release inxi: 3.3.38Boot Mode: UEFI\n\nIn the end, there are a lot of factors why some people have problems viewing YouTube if they are using Pale Moon. But at the shop where I hang out at, customers viewing YouTube with Firefox, Edge and even Chrome browsers, they too have problems because of the factors I listed above with their computers.\n\nSlow download speed from their ISP, old processors with slow processor speeds, not enough memory, graphics chips (if a laptop) and graphics cards (for a tower computer) not good enough, etc, etc.\n\n* * *",
"title": "General Discussion • Re: YouTube Now Forcing Visitors To Sign In To View Videos",
"updatedAt": "2026-03-25T14:05:28.000Z"
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