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  "path": "/t/leaving-mullvad-thoughts-about-ivpn/38842?page=3#post_58",
  "publishedAt": "2026-06-29T16:27:39.000Z",
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  "tags": [
    "Leak confirms GrapheneOS & Motorola partnership for non-Pixel hardware",
    "EU’s e-Evidence directive from 2026",
    "Separate VPN Servers and VPN Clients - #17 by ignoramous",
    "Proton Mail Helped FBI Unmask Anonymous ‘Stop Cop City’ Protester",
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  "textContent": "carbonated:\n\n> Do you have more info on the log policy of EU?\n\nLeak confirms GrapheneOS & Motorola partnership for non-Pixel hardware\n\n> For instance, EU’s e-Evidence directive from 2026, specifically authored for “network-based services” like “proxy services”, requires storing even the encrypted data (which clearly, they plan to decrypt if they could obtain the keys, too; which, in some schemes, are derived from or locked behind end-user passwords).\n\nRegardless of laws of the land, the “no logs” providers may yet log (for anti-abuse prevention, for example): Separate VPN Servers and VPN Clients - #17 by ignoramous\n\n* * *\n\ncarbonated:\n\n> How would that look in reality and has any provider followed such a request?\n\nDon’t think these providers have a choice of not following through a legal request, if they want to remain in business.\n\nProton Mail Helped FBI Unmask Anonymous ‘Stop Cop City’ Protester News\n\n> I specifically quoted, I wonder if you are debating yourself? I’ll leave you two at it. Good. To me, what’s troubling is folks taking Proton’s marketing weasel and passing off as some gospel, yeah. These are all first party sources you’re relying on. I’m not a lawyer but, Mutual Legal Assistance, in reality, seems to be ‘bypassed’ for cybercrime investigations (ref), as the Budapest Convention (which Switzerland is a signatory to) takes over. Police-to-police cooperation for the sha…",
  "title": "Leaving Mullvad, thoughts about iVPN?"
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