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  "path": "/t/amd-stripped-transparent-secure-memory-encryption-from-its-consumer-cpus/38576?page=2#post_22",
  "publishedAt": "2026-06-19T17:57:24.000Z",
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  "textContent": "You can really bend the light and see it either way. Your concerns are largely hypothetical fear mongering.\n\nThe part you are ignoring is that desktop systems don’t contain apps in a meaningful way, don’t have a fraction of the exploit protections of grapheneos, and don’t come close to the immense physical security of pixels which grapheneos greatly expands on. Desktop is many years behind mobile for privacy and security protections.\n\nBesides that, to address your points.\n\n  * Motorola is coming out with compatible devices with bootloader support\n  * Grapheneos is more popular than ever and it’s growing rapidly.\n  * Motorola will bring over many users who had concerns with Google or their hardware.\n  * GrapheneOS wants to sell Motorola devices with GrapheneOS preinstalled which will greatly increase adoption.\n  * Less than ten percent of banking apps are not compatible.\n  * Over 99% of regular android apps work perfectly on GrapheneOS\n  * As more people use grapheneos, more apps will officially support it. Two banking apps already officially support using their secure and private attestation and many more banking apps added compatibility at users request in other ways.\n  * Google has no incentive to remove the features grapheneos relies on because pixels are used for android development\n  * Google is not meaningfully harming installing apps from outside playstore when using privelaged Google play services. You can easily install apps by waiting hours.\n  * Android has an extremely strong foss developer community and there’s a unified design language making apps consistently beautiful.\n  * Celebrite doesn’t have good support for GrapheneOS devices based on the latest leaked documents\n  *\n",
  "title": "AMD stripped [Transparent Secure Memory Encryption] from its consumer CPUs"
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