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  "path": "/t/vpn-and-tor/37851#post_4",
  "publishedAt": "2026-05-12T18:12:56.000Z",
  "site": "https://discuss.privacyguides.net",
  "textContent": "I believe PG still recommends Tor over VPN, though the Tor Project folks would say not to use a VPN\n\nalienable:\n\n> Gain more internet privacy/cross-site tracking in light of Palantir, age-vetification, mass surveilance, data capitalism\n\nFrom who? Tor over VPN will indeed permit greater anonymity _from the endpoint webserver_ , by removing your IP as an identifier. You may, however, m _a_ ke your fingerprint _more unique_ to adversaries within the ISP infrastructure: the singular device constantly connected to Mulvad servers is easier to deanonymize across sessions than the device that uses a different Tor Bridge each\n\nalienable:\n\n> And VPN specifically - I just don’t want to SCEAM to my ISP that I’m using Tor\n\nThis is the strongest reason to use Tor over VPN in my opinion: Tor usage itself can be identifiable, and known Tor users may be scrutinized more\n\n> Yes, if someone is determined enough to actively look into it, Tor connections that originate from VPN servers will definitely stand out and not blend in with the rest of the traffic\n\nThis would require an advanced adversary, either embedded at the VPN provider, within ISP infrastructure, or compromising the Tor network as a whole. The endpoint webserver will only see a Tor IP, the VPN origin is masked when your traffic passes through Tor",
  "title": "VPN and Tor?"
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