UK plans to pass law banning anyone born after 2008 to buy cigarettes

Grapeg:

You’ve missed the point twice now. The victims of a drunken driver are those put at risk by their drunk driving. That is clearly defined. If a person injures or kills someone while drunk driving they will be accused of this crime in addition to drunk driving.

We should drop this point otherwise we will discuss in circles.

Grapeg:

I didn’t make any such claim, please converse in good faith, or I’m done.

You did.

I said:

Onscreen5341:

Also, taxpayers are in some definition the victim of it. They have to pay for the treatment of the abuse if smoking.

Onscreen5341:

Which activity for example?

You said:

Grapeg:

Baking a cake.

My point was/is that taxpayer are in some sort victims, because they need to pay for a treatment someone receives that knowingly did/do something that will 100% cause a medical health issue.

Grapeg:

You can’t go excluding people from national healthcare just because you don’t like the thing they are doing. The national health service is there to mop up the mess we make of our bodies by living in them.

I never said that.