Pavel Durov on Signal

Gersand: > Telegram is becoming worthless to them. Again, to spy on domestic citizens, not to spy on Telegram that’s as per the Twitter thread being called out across the board. The war in Russia is going poorly, and Russia is controlling Internet to the point of blackout in Moscow. > Telegram has been a tool of choice even for some military in Russia. Exactly. people will soon start asking questions how the F did Russian state allow using Telegram to coordinate the war at operational level, if they didn’t control the infrastructure. The shill campaigns on /r/privacy etc conveniently died during the war, which is another data point. > But now Russia thinks the opposition’s use of Telegram is too important and they sacrifice their own use by shutting it down. The opposition activists are catching up on Telegram’s security. They have zero issue using western messaging app because they know US would not let Russians get access to the data even on a non-E2EE platform. But majority of people pare simple enough to think “It’s banned, therefore it’s secure.” Ultimately, it’s the lazy westerners that Telegram now gives access to. And if it’s an op, it looks like there’s all sorts of illegal stuff being offered from warez to CSAM, that Russian intelligence agencies would have zero issues using as compromata. That’s probably how they’re keeping grip on the Epstein class. Gersand: > Plus, the article doesn’t mention whether Durov’s entering Russia was legally or not. Yeah I’m sure the guy slipped into the country 60 times and we know it was 60 times because there was an unofficial count on some airport customs wall but nobody told Kremlin who’s supposedly after him? There’s about 40 airports in Russia with international flights, so as per pigeon hole principle it wasn’t unique random airports, and you can be your ass Durov didn’t take a taxi from Vladivostok to Moscow during his visits. > It’s possible that intel has just known afterwards that Durov was there, without being able to know it when it was happening. Sixty times? I know Russians are incompetent but they’re not that incompetent. > i am just pointing that we are simple mortals who shouldn’t hold too tight on any opinion or belief in that kind of matter All you’re doing is defending a tech-bro billionaire who failed his users, by sowing doubt.