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  "publishedAt": "2026-03-06T11:32:42.000Z",
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  "textContent": "kissu:\n\n> One of my buddy told me that it is 10 years for security updates apparently.\n\nGiven that the 2017 macbook airs and 2018 mac minis are now considered obsolete, I would expect about 7-8 years\n\nkissu:\n\n> Still, do you know a lot of people that do keep a 500€ laptop for 10 years?\n>  The hardware will die far sooner than that or you will be leftover by potential hardware incompatibilities.\n\nNot technically a laptop, but yes. Me. I have a 14 year old mac mini that runs on linux better than the day I bought it, and better than several machines I purchased since then. Precisely because Apple used to allow basic upgrades and repairs and wasn’t as anti-linux.\n\nkissu:\n\n> The hardware will die far sooner than that or you will be leftover by potential hardware incompatibilities.\n\nWhat “incompatibilities”? And what will die that you can’t repair? No moving parts in modern machines means things can last a long long time if you allow them to.\n\nkissu:\n\n> Moreover, if your upgrade cycle is 500€ every 7 years, I’d say we’re quite above the 99% of modern users given today’s tech usage.\n\nI agree but this is not a good thing.\n\nkissu:\n\n> Realistically, if you need to repair or upgrade, you might consider a desktop in the first place.\n\nI strongly disagree.\n\nkissu:\n\n> at some point you will pay more money repairing your stuff while it won’t be brand new.\n\nI disagree but this also strays from the original point which was just about longevity.\n\nkissu:\n\n> I don’t see why this is a different conversation.\n\nBecause it’s not about longevity of the machine. It’s about individual user needs. Everyone is saying that this laptop will be good for “very basic” users who need to do nothing more than browse the web, check email, etc. anyway who don’t need more than a paltry 8 GB RAM. I doubt most of these types of users are running super specialized software.\n\nkissu:\n\n> A laptop that stays alive for 5 years and performs well all around is an **excellent** longevity device from my POV especially given the price.\n\nI disagree. Let’s hold companies to a higher standard.\n\nkissu:\n\n> Especially for people that would never in their life crack their laptop open to even upgrade the SSD.\n\nEven if you can’t do it yourself you should be allowed to do it so a friend can do it or repair person for cheap.\n\nkissu:\n\n> It’s an absolute no-go when it comes down to a **desktop** machine tho, on that we do agree very much.\n\nGlad we agree on something",
  "title": "Macbook Neo"
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