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"textContent": "**Episode 197: Carter Bays and Craig Thomas Interview**\n\nThis is the After Show for _New York Mythological_ , featuring Andrew’s conversation with **Carter Bays and Craig Thomas** , creators of _How I Met Your Mother_.\n\nAs part of this MaxFunDrive run, _Dead Pilots Society_ is featuring two pilots from Carter and Craig. In a few days, the second one, _Gimme Five_ , will be released, followed by part two of Andrew’s interview with them.\n\nThe conversation gets into the real origins of _How I Met Your Mother_ , the experiences, influences, and unexpected ingredients that eventually became the show. Carter and Craig also talk about the years before that success, and the many turns a writing career can take along the way.\n\nIt’s a funny, candid conversation about writing, setbacks, success, and the odd resilience it takes to keep making things.\n\nHere is a link to \"The Future is Now”, Oliver Beene theme song by Carter and Craig’s band “The Solids”",
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