The Future of Web Dev: Are We Overcomplicating Everything?

This week, Chuck and Robbie talk about the neverending evolution of web dev tools and frameworks. Over a Hatozaki Japanese whiskey, they dive into ORMs, the pros and cons of Prisma, Drizzle, and AstroDB, and how modern dev tools shape the ecosystem. Plus, a detour into home automation security, the real cost of DoorDash, and why Gen Z might just be bringing malls back.

In this episode:

• (00:00) - Intro
• (01:13) - Whiskey tasting and review: Hatozaki Japanese Whiskey
• (07:42) - ORMs and Prisma
• (11:09) - Impressions of Drizzle?
• (14:41) - React and modern web development
• (21:41) - AI and the future of dev tools
• (27:33) - Is the rapid pace of change making web dev harder?
• (35:18) - Ember vs Rails
• (39:22) - Home security and automation
• (44:23) - Chuck’s thoughts on Wicked
• (46:13) - Movies and going to the theater
• (47:51) - Inflation and DoorDash
• (50:17) - Will a convenience-centered lifestyle lead to mass unemployment?

Links

• Hatozaki: https://akashisakebrewery.com/brands/hatozaki/ [https://akashisakebrewery.com/brands/hatozaki/]
• Jim Gaffigan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Gaffigan [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Gaffigan]
• Prisma: https://www.prisma.io/ [https://www.prisma.io/]
• Django: https://www.djangoproject.com/ [https://www.djangoproject.com/]
• Rails: https://rubyonrails.org/ [https://rubyonrails.org/]
• Ember: https://emberjs.com/ [https://emberjs.com/]
• React: https://react.dev/ [https://react.dev/]
• Astro: https://astro.build/ [https://astro.build/]
• Drizzle: https://orm.drizzle.team/ [https://orm.drizzle.team/]
• Fakerjs: https://fakerjs.dev/ [https://fakerjs.dev/]
• Next.js: https://nextjs.org/ [https://nextjs.org/]
• Vercel: https://vercel.com/ [https://vercel.com/]
• Kent C. Dodds: https://kentcdodds.com/ [https://kentcdodds.com/]
• Epic Web: https://www.epicweb.dev/ [https://www.epicweb.dev/]
• HTMX: https://htmx.org/ [https://htmx.org/]
• DHH: https://x.com/dhh/ [https://x.com/dhh/]
• Supabase: https://supabase.com/ [https://supabase.com/]
• Figma: https://www.figma.com/ [https://www.figma.com/]
• LaunchDarkly: https://launchdarkly.com/ [https://launchdarkly.com/]
• Shepherd: https://www.shepherdjs.dev/ [https://www.shepherdjs.dev/]
• Embroider: https://github.com/embroider-build/embroider [https://github.com/embroider-build/embroider]
• Webpack: https://webpack.js.org/ [https://webpack.js.org/]
• Vite: https://vite.dev/ [https://vite.dev/]
• Broccoli: https://broccoli.build/ [https://broccoli.build/]
• Rollup: https://rollupjs.org/ [https://rollupjs.org/]
• Parcel: https://parceljs.org/ [https://parceljs.org/]
• Glimmer: https://glimmerjs.com/ [https://glimmerjs.com/]
• RedwoodJS: https://redwoodjs.com/ [https://redwoodjs.com/]
• Laravel: https://laravel.com/ [https://laravel.com/]
• Flipper Zero: https://flipperzero.one/ [https://flipperzero.one/]
• Tamagotchi: https://tamagotchi-official.com/ [https://tamagotchi-official.com/]
• Dax: https://x.com/thdxr/ [https://x.com/thdxr/]
• Machine Learning in JavaScript, Remix Plus Netlify, and Why DX Engineers Matter with Charlie Gerard: https://whiskey.fm/machine-learning-in-javascript-remix-plus-netlify-and-why-dx-engineers-matter-with-charlie-gerard/ [https://whiskey.fm/machine-learning-in-javascript-remix-plus-netlify-and-why-dx-engineers-matter-with-charlie-gerard/]
• Bun: https://bun.sh/ [https://bun.sh/]
• Z-Wave: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z-Wave [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z-Wave]
• Wicked: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicked_(2024_film) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicked_(2024_film)]
• The Greatest Showman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Greatest_Showman [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Greatest_Showman]
• The Wizard of Oz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wizard_of_Oz [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wizard_of_Oz]
• Gladiator II: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gladiator_II [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gladiator_II]
• Moana 2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moana_2 [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moana_2]
• Frozen 2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frozen_2 [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frozen_2]
• The Snow Queen: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Snow_Queen [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Snow_Queen]
• DoorDash: https://www.doordash.com/ [https://www.doordash.com/]
• Chick-fil-A: https://www.chick-fil-a.com/ [https://www.chick-fil-a.com/]

Connect with Chuck and Robbie

• Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner [https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner]
• Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd [https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd]

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