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  "path": "/t/smartphones-are-not-safe/34004?page=2#post_28",
  "publishedAt": "2026-02-09T13:46:33.000Z",
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  "textContent": "Yes, the password is involved in obtaining keys, but not always in generating them. In theory, the chip won’t release the key without the password, but in practice, it can be extracted through hacking. Even if the chip’s password is involved in key generation, but if this key is completely and permanently stored on the chip, it can also be extracted. It’s necessary that anything related to the password will be stored only temporarily to decrypt the data in RAM. As for the fact that there’s no absolute protection and keys can be extracted from RAM, I’ve already mentioned that the phone needs to be put into BFU mode every time the screen is turned off, and then it won’t be possible. FDE wasn’t perfect in terms of encryption algorithms, simply because it was in use in old time and there weren’t any new algorithms available. But FDE is an architecture, not an algorithm. If new algorithms are used, FDE will be more secure than FBE, if we talk about fight with Cellebrite, and that’s what we’re talking about here, not user isolation, etc. A phone is usually personal to each person.",
  "title": "Smartphones are not safe"
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